DoctorJim
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While I agree that the second floor is a great place for a meet, if sitting outside I prefer to sit slightly over on Ziggy's patio - Ziggy's is a smoker friendly bar right next door and both share the same outdoor seating area. The views are much better (more canal and less RLD, particularly THAT corner of the RLD!). I found the staff at Ziggy's to be exceptional, frankly it is a lot cleaner and nicer than Old Church IMO. So with all due respect to Old Church, the location is fine but you'll find me next door.
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